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by mamcx 3389 days ago
> Ruby is a much simpler and more aesthetically pleasant language

That is open to disagreement. I will say the same, but of python.

HOWEVER, among the languages that put "aesthetically pleasant" as part of the charm, I think is safe to say that python/ruby are from the top 5.

Any of both will be a good choice using that criteria (and even considering the troubles with BOTH), so in my mind is hard to go "wrong" with any of them. Both have other features that could weight in the choice, but at level of language are more brothers in spirit than enemies.

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I don't see ruby "killing" python, (I'm more a fan of python, ok?); just for the look of it the niches of both are more defined now.

SADLY, js is what is killing all the other languages in the web space. I wish a better language was the cause, but not, must be the far worse, more terrible, but the NON-choice.
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mercer 3388 days ago
Without any strong feelings for or against a particular language, I suspect Ruby is hurt more by this than Python, at least in the future, on account of being more web-focused. Can people in both communities confirm or deny this (and as I said I'll happily use Ruby in many of my use cases)?

As for JS; what with TypeScript and ES6 (despite the worry of clutter) I can't help but wonder if it's the best non-choice we could have hoped for.

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mamcx 3388 days ago
I think that is a side-effect that ruby in rails was ruby in the mind of many, and python was weak at first in web (before django).

In the meantime, python get a lot of love for scientific computing and other stuff, but ruby (and others, I think no even java or .net) not and then get behind in this area.

So now, when the web side have more viable options and ruby is just one of many, the effect of web on ruby is felt more, but python have a good fallback on the rest.

Python have a more diverse portfolio of options ;)

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gspetr 3388 days ago
> I think that is a side-effect that ruby in rails was ruby in the mind of many, and python was weak at first in web (before django).

Django was actually released first.

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mamcx 3388 days ago
Yeah? Ups!

But Ruby On Rails was more popular, no?

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