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by JohnJamesRambo 3393 days ago
So much equipment and money devoted for something as pointless as Facebook. I wish it could go for something cooler and more useful. Something that hasn't been shown in studies to make us feel lonelier.
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I ask what is useful then? People who are working on Open Compute project are definitely learning new things. Every engineering blog post from FB is the reassurance of quality research done right. FB's work may not be impactful to you, but it is impactful to a lot of others. Ever heard of React and Cassandra? All came out of Facebook. Sorry, I have to be harsh, your comment is useless.
If they were a research organisation then I would have nothing but respect for Facebook's accomplishments. However they are not a research organisation but instead a for-profit corporation that devotes an obscene amount of money and effort to undermining privacy for all users of the internet, irrespective of whether you use their platform or not.

I don't think it's fair to judge the merits of an entity purely by what it brings to the world, without also considering what it in turn takes from it.

I think your concern for privacy has no respect for the individual accomplishment. Facebook, like many other for-profit organizations, will always monetizing user data. You have the choice of not using it. The outcome of their research has impact from environmental to computer science. You may disagree how a for-profit should run, but I respect the people who work there performing top tier research. You'd think all of the DoD research grants are less sinister? Perhaps we should never accept any grants from the DoD so none of them goes into military action based on your sentiment of social responsibility.
I'm not much of a FB user myself, but my wife's auntie (70yo, Filipino, living with us in the US).

- Saw the first pictures of her grandkids on FB

- Organized a school reunion in NY with people flying in from all over the world on FB

- Chats weekly with her daughter working on Singapore over FB messenger

- Writes crazy long prayers for sick friends on FB

- Found former students living locally on FB that she socializes with.

Whether or not FB makes you lonelier or not seems to really be situational and at least for auntie (and many others) they consider it a tremendous positive thing in their lives.

Definitely situational.

Some people have gone to jail for 30 years for liking the wrong post on FB.

Guess that's one way to get lonely.

Can you give a source on that?
Of course [1].

There have been many similar cases, prison sentences ranging from 15 to over 30 years.

Facebook enables these people to express themselves, but it also helps the authorities to track down anyone who has the wrong opinion. If they really wanted they could do something about it.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/07/man-jailed-for...

Edit: Here is the story about the single like: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/thai-man-faces-32-years-prison-liki...

Sorry but this is an incredibly ignorant statement.

Irrespective of whether you find Facebook (the website) useful, Facebook (the company) is amazing. The technologies they have developed e.g. Hive, HBase, Cassandra, ORC now power the Big Data Analytics movement which is transforming enterprises around the world. And frankly nothing in IT is changing the world for more people across more facets of their life than that. Likewise their work on the maching learning front has been incredibly valuable.

And provided you don't make social media the core of your life then you will find it to be a useful tool.

They can't keep the most basic of api's stable and reliable for even 6 months.
>Something that hasn't been shown in studies to make us feel lonelier.

I was curious about that as I'd say personally I've found the opposite effect that it lets you connect with friends more easily, so I tried to look up the studies.

Most articles seem to quote Ethan Kross who found people who reported they were lonely used Facebook more and concluded Facebook made them lonely but it seems to me cause and effect would be more likely to run the other way. I mean if I'm physically on my own I'll chat to friends online. I can't recall chatting online causing me to be physically alone.

Why don't you make something cooler/useful?
As a small business advertiser: Facebook is awesome. Nowhere else can you get $400 of sales for $10 in ads. That's a 40x ROI.
Your ROI is from profit, not revenue. You can easily get $400 in sales for $10 in ads if you don't care about profit.
You can get it for $0 in ads on Craigslist. ;)
So every time you spend $10 on ads, you get $400 of sales? And if you spend $0 on ads you get $400 less revenue for that period?

Sounds like fake news to me.