[pier25]

> How does that make presenting their product propaganda any more so than any other product presentation? Heck, they even use it themselves for their backend.

There is that aspect, sure.

But what I wanted to point out is the irony of IBM promoting Swift since there isn't really any obvious advantage of using it full stack unless you are using iOS. Which happens to be the product of their new friend.

That is all.

[jstapels]

IBM has already ported Java over to the z Systems platform. So why is them also supporting Swift a bad thing here?

[pier25]

I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

What I'm saying is that moving to swift full stack is only beneficial if you are using iOS or macOS on your clients.