[wmil]

While Swift will compile on different backends now, XCode is still the premiere Swift dev environment and will be for a good while. So a non Mac Swift dev won't be having a great time.

The target market is really iOS devs who want the same language on the back end.

That's a perfectly reasonable engineering goal for an iOS-first shop.

But they're a vocal group and like to hype up server Swift as the next big thing for everyone. That's just not going to happen.

[jstapels]

https://www.jetbrains.com/objc/

[JimDabell]

AppCode only runs on macOS and requires Xcode to be installed. It's no help to people who aren't running macOS.

[msie]

Given all the complaints about XCode & Swift, I would say that it's not a huge advantage.

[coldtea]

>While Swift will compile on different backends now, XCode is still the premiere Swift dev environment and will be for a good while. So a non Mac Swift dev won't be having a great time

They won't have any worse time than someone using Go or Rust or D anywhere else..., that is, languages without "premiere Dev environments" and IDEs...

[antfarm]

For a while, there was a Swift plugin for JetBrain's CLion. https://blog.jetbrains.com/clion/2015/12/swift-plugin-for-cl...

I don't know what the future plans are for that ...