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by mirage01 3393 days ago
No one has to "attempt to divide the genders." Women have already been subjected to this in colonial and imperial countries for at least thousands of years.

What you see as an "attempt at dividing" is more accurately the article showing you reality while you dismiss it.
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panglott 3393 days ago
Yea, reading this comment just a week after Susan Fowler's post on her experiences at Uber is surreal.

It's not the ones complaining about this stuff who are "dividing the genders".

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edblarney 3392 days ago
People who claim that 'women earn 77 cents on the dollar as compared to men' - when studies overwhelmingly show that this is false when taking into consideration roles and hour etc. - are definitely 'dividing genders'.

Pay equity debates require nuance. Most of those promoting the issue seem to fail to grasp that.

That there are some sexist pigs in the world (ie. some guy at Uber), does not make the world full of sexist pigs. It doesn't necessarily even make Uber full of them, although it's more plausible.

Almost all politicians involved in the issue are divisive, because that's what gets them attention, and riles up the base.

Watch some of the 'not popular' politicians do interviews on the news. They are refreshingly reasonable. On all sides.

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mirage01 3391 days ago
> "People who claim that 'women earn 77 cents on the dollar as compared to men' - when studies overwhelmingly show that this is false when taking into consideration roles and hour etc. - are definitely 'dividing genders'."

Women didn't start anything here in terms of division by gender. Did you think JFK signed the Equal Pay Act in 1963 for fun or something?

If there is overstepping, consider that they may just be trying to correct the overstepping of the other side. It's one of those things you can only appreciate by having your own skin in the game.

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edblarney 3391 days ago
JFK did not sign a law stating that across all America, pay averages for women and men must be the same.

He signed a law stating that a 'female plumber should be paid the same as a male plumber of equal qualifications'.

Broadly - this is the case. There is essentially pay equality in America.

Men and women do different jobs, and have different lifestyles, which constitutes the differential in pay.

The inability to understand this, and to project misleading data is definitely divisive.

If you said: "very few women have Eng jobs because so few of them get Eng degrees - let's start a program to encourage girls to get in to Engineering" - then this would not be divisive.

But if you said: "Women should have 50% of the Eng. jobs even though they only make up 13% of the talent pool" - then this is extremely divisive.

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