[Marconium]

Let's face it, some clothes that women wear are distracting for men, including a tank top. It is an animal instinct to look at beautiful women and be attracted to them. It is like putting a chocolate infront of you and saying you cannot eat it. Of course, you will resist but it will make focusing harder for you.

[raarts]

A tank top doesn't make a woman beautiful. It makes some women more attractive yes. If you are too distracted by it, it's you who are to blame for lack of self control. Find ways around that, it's called character building you'll find it useful in life in general.

[Marconium]

Well, good for you if you are perfect and there is nothing that distracts you but willpower is a limited resource and self-control consumes that resource. Try it yourself and put something that attracts you in front of you and start working. It will lower your productivity.

[raarts]

Self control can be practiced. Do not blame her for waring a tank top. It's better to try to grow as a person and not remove everything that challenges your personality from your surroundings.

Also she has freedom too. A tank top is not out of the ordinary.

[Marconium]

If I stop wash and I will smell bad. Should I ask my colleagues to develop self-control and just ignore my smell?

If something is distracting for people around you, it is very selfish to ask them to change.

By distracting things I mean things that are rooted in our biology. Not things that are opinion based.

[cholantesh]

Given that there are more physiological indicator that a person doesn't wash themselves, let alone there is a legitimate impact on health and safety when someone refuses to do so, it should be clear that this is not even close to being an apples to apples comparison.

[js8]

> Try it yourself and put something that attracts you in front of you and start working.

Easy solution. Turn 180 degrees. Ask the coworker you are now facing to change the desk with you. Problem solved.

[reinhardt]

> If you are too distracted by it, it's you who are to blame for lack of self control. Find ways around that, it's called character building you'll find it useful in life in general.

Cool. Likewise, if you are a woman distracted by guys staring at your boobs, it's you who are to blame for lack of self discipline. Find ways around that, it's called character building you'll find it useful in life in general.

Fair's fair.

[raarts]

Two different things can look similar when phrased in similar terms. But they're still very different.

[nojvek]

Do men rape every women they find attractive on the street?

We are human because we can resist the urge. Yes, women will be attractive to men and vice versa, its biological, but a tank top and I guess nowadays yoga pants are quite normal.

Not getting promoted because you wore tank top a couple of times is like saying to a guy "you wear shorts and your calves are sexy, so we won't promote you". The fact that a female manager says that means, sexism is rooted deep in "Uber"

[Marconium]

The point is self-control requires will-power that is not unlimited and if you need to be productive it is not good to spend your will-power on other stuff.

Sexism is rooted in Uber because two women from a company with 6700 employees wrote a post how they felt discriminated?

[nojvek]

According to your logic there shouldn't be any women in the workplace with men at all since having attractive women will make men less productive.

My niece is studying to become a CS major and she has heard this argument once.

The culture is set by the worst behavior an organization is willing to tolerate.