[lispm]

> You understand that not everything politicians say is recorded? That said, Burg has literally no reason to lie about this.

So all you have is that?

Let's sum it up: there is no recording of that, there are no witnesses, there has been no transcript, Schulz himself has never acknowledged it, there are no other sources where Schulz has said anything like that, ...

All you have is a sentence which is circulating in right-wing groups.

It's actually obvious that Germany in its current form exists and that Martin Schulz aims to be its next chancellor.

> All you've done is prove my point

Sure not.

> even people who work for the EU for a long time appear to have plenty of conflicting non-EU interests.

What does it have to do with Martin Schulz?

[Exofunctor]

So what you're saying is that a direct claim from a high-ranking Israeli politician about a conversation he had, with no apparent benefit to lying about its contents, is not enough?

> right-wing groups

Haaretz, a liberal Israeli newspaper, is a "right wing group"?

> What does it have to do with Martin Schulz?

I feel like I'm chatting with a bot; do you remember the course of our conversation?

Yes, Schulz has been working for the EU for a long time; he also, apparently, has had strong interests outside the EU for as well. Why do you think many Europeans feel betrayed by the EU?

[lispm]

> So what you're saying is that a direct claim from a high-ranking Israeli politician about a conversation he had, with no apparent benefit to lying about its contents, is not enough?

Exactly. Random people can claim anything. There is no credible source and Schulz never said anything like that on record.

You might want to listen to what Schulz actually says.

> Haaretz, a liberal Israeli newspaper, is a "right wing group"?

Repeated only by right-wing groups.

> he also, apparently, has had strong interests outside the EU for as well.

which ones?

[Yetanfou]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haaretz

"... It is known for its left-wing and liberal stances on domestic and foreign issues. ..."

Yes, Wikipedia is not an original source.

https://www.quora.com/What-are-the-political-leanings-of-the...

"... Among the newspapers Haaretz is definitely left leaning, with some columnists in the radical left. ..."

Claiming that Haaretz is 'Repeated only by right-wing groups' is rather unbelievable, they'd be undermining their own arguments by doing so. That is, unless the 'left and radical left' in Israel is actually 'right' when compared to other countries. I don't think this is the case.

[lispm]

The particular quote is only circulating in right-wing groups.

Stay on topic.