[JoshTriplett]

> Alternately, I wish rust would let me say that all those temporary values should live as long as the returned thing (log and db), so it can keep them around even if I don't have variables for them.

Possibly I've missed something critical about your example, but I think you may want to create a struct Log, turn open_log() into Log::new(), and put the things the log needs (such as the log file) inside Log, owned by Log.

[pjungwir]

So I passed out a lot of upvotes, but I thought I would add a thank you to you and others trying to help me. :-)

I will try your suggestion re the log. The database example is trickier I think since the prepared statements have references to `conn`, so it can't move. Also it's annoying that I have to make `negotiator` even when I don't need it.