[Arizhel]

>Also, removable batteries and the audio jack get in the way of dust/water proofing.

My Samsung Galaxy S5 proves you wrong on this.

>Why do you want a giant, useless, 100+ year old analog port on your 2017 device?

3.5mm jacks aren't 100 years old. 1/4" ones are. And I want one because my $350 Sennheiser headphones use a 3.5mm jack, and Bluetooth headphones sound like crap and Beats headphones are utter garbage.

[otheotheothe]

While i agree that the port is useful and i want a phone with one, your comment about Bluetooth headphones sounding crap is ridiculous.

The Bower and Wilkins ones are decent, the BW P7 Wireless is the best portable headphone i ever heard, the integrated bluetooth DAC is actually better than the DAC integrated in my iphone 5s and huawei p9 phones.

I had the sennheiser momentum 2 headphones before them, also different AKG Headphones and the BW7 Wireless beat them on all aspects when it comes to the sound, in Bluetooth mode (they also have an optional cable included - they sound better with the bluetooth dac tho!)

[vidarh]

Maybe that's true, but my experience from the other end of the price scale is that cheap bluetooth headphones are absolutely awful compared to cheap wired headphones. I'd love to be proven wrong on that, as I don't like the wires, but even when I've had bluetooth headphones that sounded tolerable, switching back to even the cheapest wired headphones felt like a revelation.

Personally, I care just enough about the audio quality that this matters, but that I'm not willing to pay for an expensive pair like the BW P7 (more like 1/10th of that price...), and in my price range.

Bluetooth won't be a good replacement until they can compete on quality across that whole price range.