[amouat]

I don't think this is the intention. Personally, I think the name "CE" is a bit unfortunate, as it implies what you said. However, for the time-being at least, I would expect the core Docker engine to remain the same between CE and EE.

[shykes]

One reason for the name change is to clarify that Docker is a product. If you're looking to use Docker as a low-level component to run containers as part of another product, then you should not use Docker: instead you should use containerd, which we have spun out of Docker for exactly that reason.

A few resources about containerd:

https://containerd.tools

https://blog.docker.com/2017/02/containerd-summit-recap-slid...

[mst]

I think a thing you're suffering from here is that for most of us the central example of 'thing added CE, made enterprise version more obvious' is mysql post-Oracle-acquisition, which eventually resulted in two forks because CE became a red-headed stepchild that almost never got any features and they worked as hard as possible to hide on the website.

If you consider people to be reacting based on an expectation that you're quite possibly going to do the exact same thing, this thread makes significantly more sense - or at least it does to me.

Exactly what, if anything, can/should be done about this, I'm not sure. But I think that's probably what's going on.

[shykes]

That's understandable. Many of us at Docker are from a more C/Unix/ops background so we're less sensitive to that cultural reference.

In any case, in the end actions speak louder than words. If we consistently ship solid, open code that actually solves problem, and no frankenstein crippleware materializes... Then we will gradually earn the trust of more and more people.

FWIW, we took some of our inspiration from the original RHEL/Fedora fork by Red Hat in the early 2000s. And more recently from the Gitlab CE/EE product positioning.

[sytse]

Thanks for being inspired by us and for helping to make the CE/EE convention more popular. I have no doubt you'll continue to ship many new features as part of CE.

[majewsky]

Do you have some sort of notification on Gitlab mentions in HN comments? :)

[mst]

For the record, I'm at least opsish so it didn't bother me too much directly either. But it did explain my confusion at most of this thread, so I figured I'd offer the thought. Free idea, worth exactly what you paid ;)

[amouat]

Yes, I understand. I would just like the messaging to stress that the engine or containerd or low-level component x is the same between CE and EE and will continue to be.

[shykes]

That makes perfect sense. I will pass along the feedback. Thanks!