[timdafweak]

Impressive! While it doesn’t utterly destroy Intel, AMD does offer a MUCH better price/performance ratio. Things have gotten much more interesting indeed. Intel’s dominance is being called into question. As a result, we all profit.

[api]

On the other end ARM is also nibbling at Intel with AARCH64 chips that are closing on lower-end Core performance and building in server and high-end workstation grade features like virtualization.

[arcanus]

Yep. And nvidia and amd are hurting Intel in terms of servers which are moving in many cases towards GPU for acceleration.

Very interesting times in Silicon.

[tutanchamun]

Yeah, and AMD is the only company who can offer a high performance GPU together with a high performance x86 CPU. And APU's with HBM of course. Looking forward to what they can achieve now that they seem to be back (although most of the financial success probably lies with the server CPU Naples).

[jabl]

They seem to be planning something like http://www.computermachines.org/joe/publications/pdfs/hpca20...

Something like that could be a monster for HPC & ML type tasks. Provided AMD gets their software and tooling up to par; Nvidia doesn't rule HPC/ML because their GPU's are leaps and bounds ahead of AMD, but because CUDA is..

If so, might explain why they went with a (relatively) gimped vector FPU for Zen compared to Intel offerings (particularly the soon arriving Skylake Xeons with 512-bit wide SIMD).

[Symmetry]

One can hope that in the long run we'll see more things with a SPRI-V back end and more libraries in that space to put AMD and NVidia GPUs on more equal footing.

[clarry]

It offers much better price/performance ratio if the seriously multi-threaded use scenarios matter for you (that is where you compete with Intel's seriously overpriced >$1000 chips).

It seems that in common use (web browsing, office, gaming), fewer but stronger cores still shine and even the fastest Ryzen is slower and more expensive than Intel's offering.

So it really depends. A lot.

[compton_effect]

Well...for the time being. When the R5 and R3 get released in Q2, we will have 6 and 4 core versions with higher clock speeds so that might help a bit. Plus based on the pricing, I'm gonna bet a 4 core ryzen will be a bit cheaper than a 4 core kaby lake.

[BuckRogers]

No it doesn't. Chips much slower than Ryzen aren't struggling with those common usecases at all. All you're doing is losing 8C/16T and spending the same amount or more to do it.