[krapp]

You're just repeating my point, but applying a predictable anti-liberal bias.

>Obama has been the best gun salesman for the United States ever.

Because of all the extremist gun control legislation he passed?

No, wait.. people just believed Obama was coming for their guns but he never actually did that.

It's almost as if people have been trained to respond to gun violence by supporting the NRA and buying guns ... in some sort of Pavlovian response.

But I can't imagine what organization or industry could possibly have spent decades and millions of dollars in political capital engineering such a virtuous cycle for themselves.

[madengr]

If Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and other ilk had their way, there would be guns bans and confiscation. Intent is 9/10 of the law.

[krapp]

The weird thing though, is they did have their way, and that didn't happen.

[madengr]

No they didn't have their way. several draconian bills never made it out of comitee.

[krapp]

Fair enough, then. Which bills?

I still don't know why the political process working as intended justifies the degree of paranoia that leads to mass stockpiling of guns and ammunition, though. Or why that paranoia manifests behind all gun control legislation, not just the "draconian" attempts which fail.

[madengr]

https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/how-many...

[krapp]

That article's thesis appears to be that nearly all attempts at gun control legislation, including those by Republicans, fail regardless of their intent because of the political and lobbying influence of the NRA.

I don't see evidence of the "draconian" bills you mentioned, or of nefarious intent by "Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, and other ilk."