[droithomme]

You know what? I don't want to have to buy or deal with dongles.

We have a number of standard interfaces that work well. I require those in my pro level machines.

And you know what? I get those in my pro level machines.

The reality is Apple doesn't make pro level machines. That's OK. Neither does Nintendo, Kraft, or Parker Brothers.

[jolux]

It's funny because there isn't a single non-standard interface on the new MBPs and the old ones had magsafe (apple only) and thunderbolt (might as well be apple only)

[droithomme]

Cool, so you say it has USB 2/3, HDMI video, audio in/out, and Ethernet compatible with standard equipment, and without the need for dongles, that's awesome! I'll buy one tomorrow at the Apple store right after I confirm that you are telling the truth.

[jolux]

>Cool, so you say it has USB 2/3, HDMI video, audio in/out, and Ethernet compatible with standard equipment, and without the need for dongles, that's awesome!

What's this condescending bullshit for? Fuck's sake man, I never said it had it HDMI or ethernet (the audio situation hasn't changed) and if you had read this thread higher up you would see I was refuting someone who suggested they never had HDMI. They did, and now they don't. They haven't had ethernet since 2012 and for what it's worth they still do support USB 2 and 3, they just don't support those protocols over a type A connector, they support it over type C. Those dongles are standard (you don't have to buy Apple's) and can be had for $10 for a two pack: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AUKU1OO/?tag=thewire06-20&linkC... Adapters were much harder to find for the Thunderbolt 2 ports on the older MacBook Pro, you basically had to go with Apple for most things. Now you can buy the cheapest one Amazon will sell you and it should work.

But you know they don't have those ports, so I don't know what your deal is. I said all the I/O is now standard including the power connector. You can't say that of the older MacBook Pros much less any other PC laptop.