[erikpukinskis]

> It's great to hear that Susan's experience is not the case on every team.

What? No it's not. If it was like that on every team, you would basically be describing hell. "Better than absolute hell" is nothing to celebrate.

[grandalf]

> "Better than absolute hell" is nothing to celebrate.

Well I think that it's useful in the midst of stories like this to realize that yes, most people are nice, kind, etc. Perhaps most Uber employees are like that. It should give hope to anyone who is working somewhere that should be better who is inclined simply to quit vs trying to make it better.

[erikpukinskis]

It's useful for people who are not under assault, for whom the worst aspect of this situation is that their egos are being threatened.

For people dealing directly with harassment it's a pointless distraction. Of course there are good people. Anyone who is dealing with harassment knows their are good people, because shitty people are harassing them. The difference is not an academic one for them, it's a material one.

For you, the scariest thing about this thread is apparently that someone might think everyone on earth is bad? No that can't be. Your priority is ensuring we all remember not all Uber employees are bad? You're worried about the reputations of non-harassing Uber employees?

Sorry, I'm struggling here. What's useful about reminding people amidst a harassment crisis that not everyone ja bad?

[qcon_fan_woman]

Thank you Eric for replying here. I agree that 'better than hell' is not a reason to celebrate. This is my first time creating an account on hacker news and posting because i felt compelled to agree with you. Too many people are still sound complacent about the state of things. Why does everyone's bloo d not boil reading this and Susan's account? Why is everyone not prompted to take one step to make the workplace better for women in tech no matter how small.