[Mister_Snuggles]

Apple is in a good position to do this. Unfortunately, they keep paring down their product line and I could reasonably see them dropping the Airport products.

Maybe the OpenVPN guys can do it? They've got clients for every platform and seem to be present in some consumer-grade routers. Infrastructure-wise, iOS has on-demand VPN capability and I'm sure Android does too.

All the pieces are there, the only thing it needs (as though it's a simple problem - it's not) is someone to wrap it up in a slick and easy-to-use interface.

[mulmen]

There are a lot of details that have to be done right. Backups in the cloud still make a lot of sense but there need to be serious guarantees on the security of the backed up data. Decentralized backups could be a solution to this but come with their own problems like can you trust your cousin and brother in law to run servers as reliably as Amazon?

I would love to see some of the features of iCloud moved into an Airport type device with expandable storage and modular hardware that I can simply swap out when it fails. I realize Siri level capabilities would take more hardware than the typical router contains but I feel like a Mac mini may even have the necessary horsepower to do the amount of cloud computing my iPhone requires in a day.

The hard parts are creating the map data to begin with and training the voice recognition but once those are complete why can't I just run them on local hardware?

[Mister_Snuggles]

I wouldn't advocate getting rid of "the cloud" in general, but I'd advocate rationalizing it.

For your examples:

- Backups - Agreed, these make sense and need the appropriate security guarantees.

- Siri - I can't think of anything it does that requires the voice recognition stuff to operate in the cloud. If this could all be done on-device, but with the ability to reach out to the cloud as required that would be cool.

- Maps - I'm torn. On one hand, it could be a local thing, but on the other hand there is a LOT of value added by it living in the cloud. Whenever my bus is moving slow, my first instinct is to pull up Google Maps and see where the accident is. It's shockingly accurate.

And some other stuff:

- File syncing/sharing (like Dropbox and friends) - Doesn't NEED to be a cloud service, this could be as simple as a USB hard drive attached to a router or as complex as a 12-bay NAS. What I'd love to see in this space is a universal API that app vendors can use - no more dealing with some apps that are Dropbox only when I want to use SugarSync or OneDrive etc. Then the storage provider would just provide an app that implements that API and everything that wants to store files in the cloud could use it.

- Email - I think what we have for email these days is really a great example of how things should work. Don't want to invest a lot of time and effort? Sign up for Gmail. You can use the web, or you can use a choice of native clients easily. Willing to put in the work? Buy a domain, get yourself a Digital Ocean droplet (or colocate a box - your choice!), and run your own.

[mulmen]

You're right of course, the cloud certainly has great advantages and isn't going anywhere. I still struggle to find an application where my personal data needs to be sent to a cloud service to provide the level of convenience we have today.

I would rather none of my map usage or geolocation data ever went to the cloud. Yes, Google does aggregate a lot of valuable information but that could be consumed by personal devices directly instead of giving Google the ability to combine our travel habits with our eating habits and our browsing habits.

Bus arrival data isn't big or complex, Google just aggregates it which is why you go to maps but they don't actually put a GPS/Cellular device on every bus (excluding android phones >_>). They aggregate location data from the bus operator sources. I don't need to know where every bus in the United States is at every moment like Google does. I just need to know when my bus is reaching a stop near me. My home server could easily hit the same services Google does to get arrival data per stop or even just stay up to date on all the routes in my area or city.

Bus arrival data is public so there's no reason for me to store it locally but my usage of that data is personal and is something I want to own and control end to end.