[omouse]

You can see that just by looking at their job postings. The experimental ads team was hiring and then stopped and then the team was absorbed into other teams. Now they have more postings for project managers. They're basically introducing more hierarchy and traditional corp. stuff from the sounds of it.

[maxxxxx]

Having more project managers is how things get done. I see it everyday at my company...

[jventura]

I had a coworker that used to say that when you have more managers than toilets, something is clearly wrong. It was a rule of thumb in his experience..

[dripton]

That is beautiful, but I need more data.

1. Do project managers, product managers, etc. count, or only real managers with teams reporting to them?

2. Do urinals count, or only real sit-down toilets?

[duckmuck]

Urinals MUST count. Assuming that women's bathrooms have more sit-down toilets than men's, we are biased. It is unfair and sexist to allow female dominated companies more than their fair share of project managers!

/s

[baddox]

Do women's bathrooms have more sit down toilets than men's?

[dspillett]

Generally, though less toilets in total because you can cram more urinals into the same space. A common small office toilet space has room for three stalls so in the female room that is what you'll find. In the male variant the space of one of the stalls will instead be given to two individual urinals or a small "urinal wall" that comfortably houses two people or you can get three into if people are desperate. Larger rooms offer greater flexibility, but ultimately urinals take less space than stalls so you get more of them.

Of course that doesn't always mean more people going at the same time as some people don't like urinating so close to someone else so the second spot goes unused, and some of us prefer to sit for a no.1 anyway unless in a rush.

[untog]

Usually, yes, in the space occupied by urinals in the men's toilets. But you can fit more urinals in that space.

[flukus]

I don't think I've ever been somewhere with more toilets than managers, that probably supports the assertion though.

[shock]

I can't tell if you're for real or just being sarcastic.

[maxxxxx]

More meetings help too :)

[fao_]

http://wiki.c2.com/?HaHaOnlySerious

[charlesdm]

Clearly sarcasm.

[zobzu]

you might have not had more than one manager then :)

[rhelmer]

Product managers and hierarchical reporting structures are nothing new to Mozilla, quite the contrary.