[andybak]

Yes I suppose so - but to realistically get server-side rendering I'm currently forced to use javascript on the server as well as the client and that is not a price I'm prepared to play.

Hopefully that will change.

[pluma]

> forced to use javascript

Sounds like your gripe is less with client-side code than with JavaScript as a language.

We have a saying for that in my native language. It roughly translates as "All I hear is mimimi...".