[T-A]

But fun nonsense. Imagine if it really were so. Neurons die all the time, in the thousands every day. So one day that particular neuron dies, and you are gone. But nobody else can tell, because the other 100 billion neurons are still doing their thing. They now control an automaton without consciousness which, nevertheless, will emphatically claim to be conscious, should anybody ask. Because we all are, right? :)

[beaconstudios]

Philosophical zombies are definitely interesting subjects for thought experiments.

[red75prime]

For incorrect thought experiments. You cannot conceive p-zombie from first point of view, because there's no first point of view for p-zombie. If you conceive p-zombie from third point of view, you cannot be sure that it IS p-zombie, because you aren't God and p-zombie is identical to not-p-zombie from third point of view.

[beaconstudios]

Well, the parents concept was that of a living consciousness becoming a p-zombie, which seems valid to me.

[red75prime]

If there's no changes in behavior we usually associate with consciousness, then why we decided that those neurons were responsible for consciousness in the first place?

[beaconstudios]

therein lies the problem - we can't detect consciousness from the outside.