[zipppy]

Sure, our current statistics show your statement to be true. But, I think many people are alarmed at the trajectory of hate and intolerance in the US.

Also, being murdered is the worst thing that could happen, and maybe that event is still rare, but a set of stairs isn't going to harass you or discriminate against you. There's a whole spectrum of bad things that could happen to people because of the climate in the US.

[mikeash]

The original comment said, "It is just not worth getting shot by a random idiot while walking on the street."

If you want to talk about other negative aspects, then fine, but that's a gigantic move of the goalposts.

[palerdot]

Care to explain why?

For me, getting shot while walking on the street and getting shot when having a normal conversation in a bar looks almost same.

I genuinely want to know, what is the difference between the above comment and this particular incident. Because, this reasoning might also be the reason, why in U.S people prefer to have guns in their daily life (where living is the goal, and not how to prevent dying).

[mikeash]

I think you've misunderstood the conversation. I am including getting shot while having a normal conversation in a bar. When I pointed out how unlikely it is to get shot as part of a hate crime, the response moved the goalposts to include "a whole spectrum of bad things that could happen" including non-fatal harassment and discrimination.

Having someone call you names or refuse you service, while bad, isn't what the original comment was talking about.