[Cookingboy]

"I would also like to point out that no one has ever had an abortion "for no reason at all" and shame on you for trying to squeeze that one in there."

I grew up in China, people there have abortions ALL THE TIME, sometimes just for reasons like changing mind about having a kid last minute. I didn't think too much about that. But now thinking about it, it does seem messed up to me and no, I'm not squeezing that one into there.

[freehunter]

That's very clearly not "no reason at all" though. They didn't want a kid. That is a reason.

[jstimpfle]

So if I kill my friend just because "I want", that's also "a reason"? If yes, what was the point of your original argument?

You really, really need to learn to just give in when someone proves you wrong.

That kind of argumentation leads nowhere. These are straw mans at best.