[notheguyouthink]

This is probably why i'm going to be replacing my 2014 with a 2017 MBP (hopefully they're not worse...), despite wanting to go with Linux.

I can't stomach dealing with driver/etc issues. I can't handle paying $2k only to deal with debugging things that i want to "just work".

Sure, it might work perfectly, or it might be a nightmare. I've had both experiences on desktop linux.

[timattrn]

I reluctantly decided that my MacBook days were over with these 2016 machines. But moving to linux was a huge step. So I bought a $360 2011 ThinkPad W520. A quad core laptop (with 32gb ram capacity). To experiment. Well, it was a dream machine, so now I'm using a quadore ThinkPad p50 (xubuntu) (with NVIDIA graphics). This is a great experience. It runs VMware way better than macos, and the keyboard ....