[lucb1e]

The pirate party is awfully specific, like the pvdd (party for animal welfare; partij voor de dieren). I would love to vote for the pirate party if they would just stick to IT, but they can't: if someone gets into parliament, they suddenly have to decide on everything.

I'm serious about privacy and IT stuff, but I am also serious about education and peace. Calling your party the animal party, 50+ party, pirate party, etc. just forces you to ignore anyone who doesn't identify as an animal lover, as 50+ or as a pirate (or internet freedom fighter).

[arianvanp]

Did you even read the party programme of piratenpartij?

You cannot seriously scream "piratenpartij is nonsense because it is single issue" when the pirate party has 60 page party programme that touches upon all aspects of society [https://piratenpartij.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/PPNL-Ver...] whilst the expected largest party has only a single sheet of paper that just says "Get rid of all Muslims in Europe + Close all borders" [https://www.pvv.nl/images/Conceptverkiezingsprogrammma.pdf]

I would be a lot less worried about piratenpartij getting a seat in parliament than PVV getting 50% if you're worried about single-issue parties.

[lucb1e]

> Did you even read the party programme of piratenpartij?

It's not because they have no (or a bad) programme, I said what I said because they are "the pirate party".

Regarding the PVV, the "party vor vreedom" (literally translated, for the non-Dutch people here), yeah they're literally George Orwell's 1984 doublespeak. A party for freedom that restricts our freedom every step of the way, and focuses on muslims the whole time. They should have been called the anti-foreigner party, or perhaps rename to Autochtonen Eerst (as a reference to America First). But anyway that was not the topic.

[gpvos]

The PvdD (Animal Party) has actually had a lot of successes on their main topic since they entered parliament. In the Dutch system, tiny parties can have a large impact if they make proposals that have broad support in society. And even if the support isn't there yet (which might be the case here – the sentiment is rather in favour of "security" at the moment), they will have a voice that is going to be heard.

Also, the PP actually has standpoints on all major issues. In many ways they're a more libertarian version of Green Left.

[akvadrako]

Don't just look at the name. The PvdD also has a lot of good policies in terms of privacy and other social issues.

But maybe it would be nice to be able to elect different parties in different areas of policy, like the water board.

[lucb1e]

> Don't just look at the name. The PvdD also has a lot of good policies in terms of privacy and other social issues.

Indeed, they do! That's why it's such a shame they're called PvdD because I don't have any particular affiliation with animals. I'm fine with them being treated well, but if that is so leading that they had to name their party like that, I am not sure it's a party I should vote for.

[akvadrako]

I think the name does a good job of presenting them as a party of compassion and recognising that we are also animals. Denying that part of our nature by pretending humans are especially rational is one leading cause of unworkable policies.

[lucb1e]

> and recognising that we are also animals.

Oh is that why they chose that name? Because I completely agree with that sentiment, but I thought the point of starting the party was to improve conditions for animals as opposed to only humans.

[akvadrako]

I don't know why they choose it, but I get the impression they are the party for all animals, including humans.

[y7]

Did you have a look at their party programme? Because their politics extend beyond just technology matters. I think their name does them a disservice; but they probably wanted to maintain ties to the more global Pirate Party movements.

[crafti]

Pirate Parties around the world are more than just IT issues. They're civil liberties and social inclusion parties.