[bitL]

This. And it's not just Berlin, it's the whole Germany including banks - they will all tell you please make 1M, then we will lend you 1M with your 1M as a collateral. Simply forget it unless you managed to choose your parents wisely (i.e. rich or influential).

[jbverschoor]

Expand to europe. Ot at least the Netherlands

[jjpe]

Where in the Netherlands would be a good idea to check out?

[gizmo]

I think he's saying the opposite: expand the thesis that you can't raise money without social proof beyond Germany to the Netherlands.