[seanparsons]

This is a more fundamental issue though, we(the software industry as a whole) need to throw off the shackles of languages like C.

Swift is probably one of the worst examples when it comes to functional programming because it's still a C like language with some FP like things in the stdlib. So you get none of the advantages and some inconsistencies weighing it down.

[eggy]

Yes, I agree that Swift is 'too C-like', and besides, I was looking at Kotlin first, and it seems almost exactly the same syntactically. I like the J programming language, which allows for very small programs due to the composing and abstracting of functions. J's use of high-level abstraction using ASCII characters to represent functions (operators - verbs, adverbs, nouns...) seems to scare a lot of people away from it. The irony is of course the move towards array-computing hardware, GPUs and FPGAs that lend themselves for a perfect match with array-based languages like APL/J/K/Kona and other, and yet we mold array/vector libraries or patches to the C-style languages to enable programming GPUs People get comfortable with their PLs like their native tongue. It's why I would hear Westerners think a Chinese child was being particularly whiny compared to their own children or other Western children, when in reality the Cantonese-speaking child was saying the same type of things. Being American and understanding some of what the child was saying in Cantonese allowed me to make that observation, and fully realize how our comforts and preconceptions operate on how we perceive others and the world. This is why I try to be multilingual in PLs and spoken languages.

DeepUI seems like yet another way to tackle implementing our goals in a different language, and thereby also gain understanding into how we 'normally' do it.