[nraynaud]

I don't think it's smart to pay to read stuff from a group that also gets money from advertisers. You're either the product or the customer, when in doubt you'll be the product.

Real subscription journalism doesn't do advertising.

[offa]

What 'real subscription journalism' big-name newspapers that don't do advertising can you name? I am honestly struggling to think of any.

[nraynaud]

Sorry, I'm French, so I can only cite you 2 French ones: Le Canard Enchainé (100 yo, no website) and Mediapart (pure web).

We are talking serious news: the first one discovered that a minister had sent 1500 Jews in a train during WWII, the second one has discovered the minister charged of tax collection had an undeclared bank account in Switzerland.

[offa]

Thank you for your reply. I can read a little bit of French, so Mediapart is something I'll keep an eye on in the future.

[dredmorbius]

Advertising-free journalism has a far higher price. Always has. Independence isn't cheap.

https://archive.org/stream/commercialismjou00holtuoft#page/1...

[nraynaud]

Yes, and it needs to be that way, because they need to keep a treasure for the lawyers too.