[dibujante]

These are all shitty arguments, but they're not conspiracies. They're just shitty arguments.

A conspiracy would be more like "Bush did 9/11", which the left was guilty of for a while. Eugh.

[ta_donk_gt]

Initially, the point was that it is only Trump supporters that are uninterested in actual facts, but sure, plenty of conspiracy theories on the left as well (was just trying to keep it clean):

"Trump has had or wants to have sex with his daughter..see, here is this picture of her sitting on his lap when she was 12"

"Trump stayed in a Russian hotel room, found out the Obamas had previously stayed in that room so hired prostitutes to urinate on the bed in front of him"

"Russia sold 19% of their state owned oil company to an unknown party and there is a document 'procured' by the Never Trump movement that says something about 19%, so Russia made a deal with Trump to get him elected and give him 19% of their oil if he would lift sanctions"

[dibujante]

OK, that is weird as shit and I've never heard it before, but a cursory internet search checks out. I think my brain actively filters out mirror.co.uk links at this point.

[iak8god]

Only the last of those three things is a conspiracy theory. I would be very happy to see evidence disproving it, but for now it seems implausible, but worth discussing.

[ta_donk_gt]

Agreed, in a true definition of a conspiracy theory only the last one meets the criteria, though I was trying to match ideas on the other side generally lumped into the conspiracy theory category such as the Podesta brothers are pedofiles (though I know this is a smaller component of a larger actual conspiracy theory).

And agree also on discussion, plenty of conspiracy theories on all sides that are actually probably worth discussing.