[candiodari]

I am saying that a government that gets accused on a regular basis of things from religious discrimination to organ trading, on occasion even by credible sources, is unlikely to be better than the US government.

Most Chinese people I work with would agree with that too. They left China, they know why, and they're mostly not looking to get back.

[bgee]

> and they're mostly not looking to get back.

The Chinese sitting across my desk just happily came back from China, the Chinese sitting besides me will go back to China in two weeks and has been looking forward to it since Christmas. I would have gone back to China during Christmas if I had enough PTOs.

Actually all the Chinese folks I know since college all go back to China on a regular basis (usually at lease twice a year). So what kind of Chinese do you work with?

[the-dude]

The only differing aspect I see is this: the Chinese primarily mistreat their own citizens. The US primarily mistreat whoever opposes their interests.

The latter actually affects me, being a non-US citizen.

[candiodari]

Have you looked at China's trade balance ? China is the cause of the worldwide austerity measures (not 100%, but 90%). So I guarantee you it is affecting you personally, even in San Francisco.

[the-dude]

Are you comparing killing people and economic policies? And do they not have the right to establish their own policies?

Do you have sources for this claim? All I can remember is some financial crisis around 2009 which lead to economic downturn and austerity. I seem to remember this crisis originated in ... the US? You disagree?

And I hated SF, very happy in Groningen for some time now.