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by ikitat 5872 days ago
So, you'll depend on the rest of the world to vaccinate so you can benefit from herd immunity and not chance the impossible odds that anti-vaccine conspiracy theories are correct?

No, maybe not a wacko, just selfish and uninformed. Vaccine preventable diseases coming back. Children are dying at the hands of the anti-vaccine movement.

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>So, you'll depend on the rest of the world to vaccinate so you can benefit from herd immunity

It's easy to make a remark about "anti-vaccine conspiracy theories" now that we have evidence to show - but to expect me or anyone else simply to trust the medical establishment has not erred in creating a new vaccine is too much.

Selfish? My children have both been immunised for the standard spread of common [childhood] disease in my country using the established vaccines. The swine flu vaccine was offered to us the week before vaccination was stopped - the reports were already in that it had been vastly overstocked, that vaccination wouldn't be effective against next seasons mutations, that other countries had ceased immunisation, that there were barely any new cases being reported, that it was far less virulent than expected and in addition I had a strong suspicion that our youngest (the only one offered the vaccine) had actually had the virus already. FWIW I've also donated to charities that make medical interventions such as vaccination of children.

Uninformed? I've attempted to ascertain the risks involved in the vaccines offered to us. Most have been widely tested over several years but the swine-flu virus had not; as you saw I did rely on past empirical data to establish some of the risk factors.

I am in no way part of an "anti-vaccine movement" I'm simply trying to use available knowledge to reduce the risk of harm to my own family.

This does bring us back to the question of selfishness - I would let others be guinea pigs first before risking the health of my own children. Part of the problem is that from an immunological perspective you can expect a lot of deaths from a vaccine and still make the call that to save the population it's better to vaccinate.

Do you really believe that I was risking the lives of other children by not immunising against swine flu in January of this year? ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/8645477.stm shows there were no further deaths in reality in my region).