[sipos]

Where do I point to any "pet issues"?

I don't say it is already too late, I say it might be. That may be overly dramatic but, unless you refute that there is a problem with an actual argument, you are hardly arguing against that.

[Baeocystin]

FWIW, I agree with you. The most recent macbook 'pro' release has caused a majority of the devs I know say 'screw this' and trade their macbooks in for surfaces. Not exaggerating. Apple should be concerned.

[Gorbzel]

Apple sold a record breaking amount of tbMBPs in the quarter since its release.

The HN echo chamber is strong, but its silly anecdotes don't reflect reality.

[Baeocystin]

Perhaps I was being unclear- I don't doubt that they sold a ton of them. The length of time since the previous update alone would ensure pent-up demand.

What I don't think they did is sell many to developers or programmers. Although small in number compared to the overall size of the market, Apple's losses there are important. Mindshare matters when you're talking about the people you expect to build the software for the platform you sell.

[johnsmith21006]

Not true on Apple selling a record amount of Macs. Apparently they added 7 days to the quarter versus a year before and therefore Mac sales declined again. For 2016 Mac sales also declined compared to 2015. Apple Mac sales declining is tied to the lack of new OS X software, IMO. Otherwise why decline?

[johnsmith21006]

Here is the Apple data and you can see for 2016 Mac sales declined 14%.

http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/10/apple