[whyileft]

That is a very deceptive way to put it.

https://jakearchibald.github.io/isserviceworkerready/

Safari is intentionally crippled in several areas. Its very specific and obvious. It is dishonest for you to at this point pretend Apple is going full force for web standards while they are explicitly not implementing features that are available everywhere else. And how those specific features line up directly as features which allow web apps to compete with its native application market.

Edit: To anyone seeing this down-voted. Apple employees typically down-vote stuff like this so please do not take this being greyed as anything but manufactured opinion.

[dang]

Presumably the downvotes are because your comment went uncivil, by accusing another user of dishonesty and by insinuating astroturfing without evidence. Neither of those things are allowed on HN, so please don't do them again.

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13593606 and marked it off-topic.

[Benjamin_Dobell]

Wait... what? Deceptive... really? Come on now.

http://caniuse.com/

In terms of tracked features they're ahead of Edge with both their stable release and in development (TP) builds.

Don't let your own prejudices distort reality.

[whyileft]

http://caniuse.com/#feat=notifications

Every. single. other. browser. Including desktop Safari.

[Benjamin_Dobell]

I can play that game too:

http://caniuse.com/#feat=es6-module

Like I said, "ahead of the game in a lot of areas", not every area.

[tinus_hn]

Except all the mobile browsers. Which makes sense since nobody wants notifications on their phone from a website.

[detaro]

> Which makes sense since nobody wants notifications on their phone from a website.

When the alternative is installing an app just for some simple notifications I temporarily want, hell yes I want that option. Let's hope PWAs get there and the browser vendors figure out good UI to deal with them.

[MBCook]

As an iOS and MacOS user..... GOOD.

I hate websites trying to give me notifications. I like that I don't get stupid prompts from mobile Safari about that kind of thing.

[saurik]

Instead you get "stupid prompts from mobile Safari" to install apps, which websites mostly do so they can send you push notifications: same prompts, even more annoying (as often the "carrot" is that some of the content or UI requires the app).

[MBCook]

Honestly I don't see a lot of those anymore. Perhaps it's the ad blocker, perhaps it's the fact that they realized it doesn't work well, or perhaps I just don't go to sites that push it.

[eridius]

That's clearly not true.

IE: Not Supported

Opera Mini: Not Supported

Chrome for Android: Not Supported

[natvert]

anybody else here actually build a progressive web app only to find that safari supports none of it's features? chrome + android (maybe even microsoft) are so far ahead here it's not even funny