[minimaxir]

Votes on this submission may be manipulated with an attempt to bypass the voting ring detector via linking to /newest: http://i.imgur.com/08pAFOw.jpg

And another one by Indiehackers founder csallen after it already hit the front page: http://i.imgur.com/rxWtsWJ.jpg

[wnm]

Can you maybe clearly specify what exactly he did wrong? Not trying to defend him. I just want to know how to behave correctly when submitting my own stuff.

e.g:

Can we tweet a link to our own submission? Can we add a link to the end of a blog post (that we submitted ourselves) with a link to the submission, saying: "Discuss on HackerNews"

[minimaxir]

IMO, there is a difference in intent; the Tweets referenced were clearly intended as growth hacking. That being said, there isn't much of a reason to link directly to a HN thread unless discussion is already fostering, and certainly no reason to link to /newest and highlight that you did so. (I'm not a fan of Discuss on HN links in lieu of comments since it forces people to go to a different page)

[csallen]

As far as I'm aware, it's perfectly fine to link to discussion on HN, but not okay to explicitly ask for upvotes: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html

[minimaxir]

Then why did you include a picture of the submission in that tweet?

Also you ignored the first picture which clearly shows your account.

[csallen]

Correct, because the first picture is not explicitly asking upvotes either, but asking for comments. And I include pictures (or at least emojis) in as many tweets as I can.

[dang]

Why link to /newest rather than the actual discussion?

[csallen]

Because if someone decides to upvote of their own volition then I want it to count, and not be discounted because I linked them to it when they might have found it on their own. If that goes against the spirit of the rules then I can abstain in the future, but at the same time it's a disincentive to ever directly linking a thread.