[xux]

It's not designed to "beat" you. Casinos are entertainment venues, not banks. One of the main selling points of casinos is the thrill you get from potentially winning a lot of money. You pay for the fun in form of the slight loss of edge in the long run odds.

No one goes in a movie theater and complain that it's "beating" you because you come out with a net negative balance

[weberc2]

Movie theaters also don't advertise in such a way that suggests will walk out with a lot of money.

[mejari]

I don't believe casinos are allowed to advertise that you will walk out with a lot of money either. Only that you might. Restaurants advertise in such a way that suggests you may have the absolute best night of your life and meet all sorts of new friends, that doesn't mean they are promising it.

[hyperbovine]

Pfft. That's a pretty unconvincing argument. Here's a selection of ads from a casino in the Bay Area. The insinuation that you'll strike it rich (and date three tiers up, if you're a man) is pretty strong:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loFmADztvak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVr8-gHUN4

The tobacco industry got banned from using this sort of psychological advertising years ago, I don't see why casinos should be treated any different.

[mejari]

"cash club members can win in wonderful ways"

You're proving my point exactly. I never said there wasn't an insinuation that if you play you could win, just that there is no guarantee given. See my other reply for examples of non-casino businesses doing the exact same thing.

[weberc2]

It seems like everyone else in this thread is talking about insinuated promises, and you're appearing to refute them by saying they weren't actual promises. No one disputes that they are only insinuations, so either you're posting off topic, or you're refutation is invalid. Take your pick.

[weberc2]

> I don't believe casinos are allowed to advertise that you will walk out with a lot of money either. Only that you might.

I never claimed otherwise. Did you read my post?

> Restaurants advertise in such a way that suggests you may have the absolute best night of your life and meet all sorts of new friends, that doesn't mean they are promising it.

I've never seen such an advertisement, nor have I heard of anyone putting up the deed to their house or the title of their car to pay for their restaurant habit.

[mejari]

>I never claimed otherwise. Did you read my post?

Yes, I did. You said

>Movie theaters also don't advertise in such a way that suggests will walk out with a lot of money.

in response to someone comparing movie theaters to casinos. Your comment is obviously suggesting that you believe casinos advertise "in such a way that suggests will walk out with a lot of money".

>I've never seen such an advertisement

Check out any chain restaurant advertisement. Here is an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CbVVq4GStc

>nor have I heard of anyone putting up the deed to their house or the title of their car to pay for their restaurant habit.

So you're changing the point from "they advertise in a misleading way" to "people can become addicted to it"? That is a different argument so I want to be clear if we're moving on from the original point.

[weberc2]

What I said:

> ... advertise in such a way that suggests will walk out with a lot of money

What you said:

> ... advertise that you will walk out with a lot of money either. Only that you might.

No one said casinos advertise that you will for sure walk out with a lot of money; my point was that they imply that you will walk out with a lot of money. The distinction seems obvious to me.

> So you're changing the point from "they advertise in a misleading way" to "people can become addicted to it"? That is a different argument so I want to be clear if we're moving on from the original point.

The point was never that casino advertisements are misleading, but other advertisements are honest; the point was that casino advertisements are misleading in ways that are ultimately life-ruining. For similar reasons, we hold cigarette and alcohol companies accountable for the content of their advertisements.

[mejari]

>No one said casinos advertise that you will for sure walk out with a lot of money

I don't see the difference between what I said you said and what you said. You were obviously saying they implied that someone will definitely walk out with money. That's what I said you said.