[hiddencost]

Many of the best AI researchers are Chinese. But they almost all work for US companies. Which is why we cannot mess with immigration.

This article is written for people outside the field? Baidu is alright but a bit of a shambles. All the did was build a dense GPU rack for RNN training. Their imagenet results were from cheating. The theoretically interesting work isn't really happening there.

The Microsoft paper was funny. It was PR BS that runs 10x real time.

Speech is nice, and iflytek does fine, but speech is becoming a commodity now.

The interesting work isn't happening in either of those companies and it's not happening on those problems.

This article was written by someone who didn't know the field interviewing someone who is trying to get his budget increased via fear mongering.

[deepnotderp]

Exactly. I deeply respect ng and his team, but they are more applied.

Also, hilariously, the article totally neglects that more research comes from Canada and Europe (deepmind) than the US....

[chronicy6]

You mean US companies with international offices such as Geoff Hinton at Google Toronto and DeepMind owned by Alphabet in the UK? Not to mention Facebook AI Research in Paris. Yep. Canada and Europe sure are producing strong research for the US. Thanks for the talent!

[deepnotderp]

MILA, Maluuba, ElementAI are all from Canada. And when you buy foreign talent, where does the money go?

Into foreign tech economies....

[strebler]

Agreed! From my perspective (computer vision), I can think of quite a few Chinese individuals who are true leaders in AI at this point (often working for US companies).

In fact, given both Hinton and Bengio's being Canadian and LeCun being French, I would say US really in the game in terms of producing "AI grandmasters" (assuming that's their definition of grandmaster). Krizhevsky was studying in Canada. DeepMind is European.

From both the research and industrial perspectives, China's education system has well prepared students for the field of deep learning - the rigorous / analytic nature has proven a massive benefit when dealing with such large models and datasets.

[davidf18]

> "Which is why we cannot mess with immigration."

This context is the proper use of the H1-B visa. Providing technical talent for which Americans can not fill the role.

But almost all of H1-B is abused where immigrants are used to do jobs that can be done by Americans as a means of lowering wages.