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by WorldMaker 3428 days ago
Part of it is that unions are associated with blue-collar work and developers feel that they are "too white-collar" for that sort of thing.

There's no collar boundary to unionization, of course, but there is a perception that there is.

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Many professionals like lawyers and doctors may not have Unions, but have strong professional oranizations.
Right, just about every sort of engineers except "software engineer" (the way SV throws the title around) has ABET accreditation requirements, the Fundamentals of Engineering exam, the Professional Engineering exam in their field of work, the Engineer in Training work apprenticeship steps, and finally the Professional Engineer certification and the organization involvements and professional learning requirements to keep that certification current.

I've considered trying for a PE certification (now that there finally is a software engineering PE, which was not the case when I graduated) to get the "engineer" back into my title at my current job (which as a broader engineering firm that serves multiple disciplines has an absolute requirement for a PE to claim the title), but getting the certification wouldn't really help me much in the industry anywhere else, so it doesn't seem worth it.

Lawyers and doctors require a extensive examination and continuing education requirements in order to get and keep their accreditation in their professional organizations. Developers, as a group, are unlikely to support such a professional organization because many of them got their expertise in non-traditional / unconventional ways and would fear being excluded.
Which leads back to unions as the next best fit. If developers and the software industry don't want to deal with professional organizations and professional certifications then unions are the next best option for collective action.
Unions tend to be for identical-cogs-in-the-machine, no differentiation between individuals, everyone marching in lockstep by strict seniority type careers. Tech types tend to be more like herding cats... not a good fit for unions.
Tom Brady is in a union... Leonardo DiCaprio is in a union...
What about actors ? They are unionized.