[legodt]

Fun fact: the vast majority of North American terrorism is committed by white men. No other group since 9/11 has contributed more to terror than disgruntled white dudes in North America. Refugees are trying to escspe the same horrors you are describing. The situation is similar to the US turning away Jews under the banner of "America First" during WW2 because they feared Nazis sneaking in with the Jews. The "safe" countries you describe haven't been rocked by war, their national identities not torn down and confused by decades of installed dictators, foreign resource exploitation, and post-cold-war rebel group armings. Remember, we created the Taliban to fight the Russians. That one sure had some long lasting effects. Now we're empowering neo-nazis domestically to fight this perceived threat of Muslim people. How do you think this is going to play out when we're done being afraid of Muslims?

It's easy to be scared right now, but turning to racist rhetoric instead of finding parallels in history is what allows fascism to take hold. Read up, educate yourself, and come back tomorrow better ready for building a better tommorrow.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/01/31/most-te...

[paulddraper]

> No other group since 9/11

So no other group since the largest terrorist act in the history of the United States?

If that's not a convenient choice in timing, I don't know what is.

[hx87]

15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. The current ban would have done nothing to prevent them from coming here.

I could see a ban making some sense, but any ban that leaves out Pakistan, UAE and Saudi Arabia has deficiencies so glaring that it would never be worth the suffering caused.

[tptacek]

Prior to 9/11, the all-time US terrorist record was the Oklahoma City bombing, by two white dudes. Divide out the number of deaths in each attack by the number of people directly involved in the attacks, and you reach comparable numbers.

[legodt]

Considering your views towards Muslims and willingness to ignore vast amounts of domestic terrorism, it seems like the goals of the 9/11 hijackers has been acheived.

9/11 is a valid date to start from because a large part of its shock value is that for the most part of post WW2 America, there weren't any foreign attacks on American soil. 9/11 was the anomaly, meant to provoke US outrage and further our violence against the middle East, convincing more young people that the US was an agressor and that they were the righteous. Clearly, these people are not righteous, but neither were we.