[gerbilly]

>Oh, and the whole "spyware" trope is becoming overworn. User analytics is here to stay, and practically every website and browser does it anyway.

I think we shouldn't take the defeatist position with respect to surveillance. I know that techies like us can block this kind of traffic at the network edge or chase down the multiple settings it takes to turn this off, but not all users will be this sophisticated.

We should be pushing back against surveillance in how we use our own computers.

[shmed]

There's a big distinction between "surveillance" and anonymous "crash logs/telemetry".

[stan_rogers]

No, there isn't.