[candiodari]

There is also one sure-fire way to increase telomere length : get cancer.

So these people were in a thin metal cube, exposed to abnormal levels of ionizing radiation, ... and after that there was telomere lengthening ? I always heard that astronauts, given the groups they're selected from, have suspiciously short lifespans. Still somewhat above average, but these guys got selected from the creme de la creme. Half of them should live to 120, and that is definitely not happening. I've never seen a good study actually comparing it though.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/06/apollo-14-astronaut-dies-o...

According to several doctor friends of mine, balance is the best way to go for a long life. Being too thin will kill you, because once you're 65 or 70 or so you will lose the ability to quickly gain weight. A significant number of people dying from "natural causes" die as follows : they get infected with something stupid, like a flu virus. Or they break a hip or something. Either way, they get really under the weather. Result: they lose weight, a lot of weight, rapidly. If your weight falls under about 35 kg, odds of survival drop dramatically, and they die from "complications" (in practice: secondary infections resulting in metabolic exhaustion: your body simply cannot maintain the minimum energy level to keep you alive. On the plus side: very peaceful way to go, and likely quite comfortable too). Keep in mind it will take a year to work your way back from 40kg to 50kg at such an age, so the higher you go the more likely you'll drop back down due to another incident before recovering.

And of course, exercise only helps up to a normal level. If you spend 2 hours every day running, that is definitely in the "shortens lifespan" area. 10 minutes, probably very good for you. And of course, the obvious : exercise increases the odds of accidents happening. Accidents, even stupid ones, can kill.

[talklittle]

> There is also one sure-fire way to increase telomere length : get cancer.

This badly needs a source.

This article from 2013 [1] says the opposite, that shorter telomeres are associated with cancer:

In recent years, shorter telomeres have become associated with a broad range of aging-related diseases, including many forms of cancer, stroke, vascular dementia, cardiovascular disease, obesity, osteoporosis and diabetes.

And another [2]:

"Telomere shortening is common in cancer, but the degree of shortening varies from one cancer cell to another within each patient, and this variability may give us a better idea of how prostate cancers behave."

[1]: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2013/09/108886/lifestyle-changes-m...

[2]: http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/in_prosta...

[pragone]

Edit: At the top since I think it may qualify my comments: I think there's a causation/correlation incongruity in this, the parent, and the grandparent posts. Telomere lengthening can lead to cancer; getting cancer is not necessarily a "sure-fire way to increase telomere length"

"Cancer" is an unbelievably broad term. Generally speaking, expression of telomerase and maintenance of telomeres is seen in (many) cancers. The background behind this is that as telomeres shorten with each cell replication, they get to a point where they are too short, and the cell stops dividing. Cancer occurs when cells that are not supposed to divide keep dividing.

[literallycancer]

>"According to several doctor friends of mine, balance is the best way to go for a long life."

From what I understand, this is just the "moderation is good, extremes are bad" meme. Similar things are recommended regarding diet composition etc. I usually read it as "we don't really know, so just do what everyone does".

>"And of course, exercise only helps up to a normal level."

What's normal? You think people only spent 10 minutes a day running, in the past?

1 hour is 10 km at a leisurely pace. If I go for a run in the morning, and in the evening, I'm very confident that I'll have better chances to live longer than someone who runs less than 2 km a day. Running ultramarathons will shorten your life, maybe. But not a jog or two.

---editing to add details after googling around a bit---

Intensity of physical exercise is measured in metabolic equivalents (MET)[1]. There is also a table with MET values for common activities.

I looked at some studies, but most are not interesting. One[2] defines "vigorous PA" like this:

Assessments of vigorous physical activity were based on a single set of intensity categories applied at all three time points; these were: 1) walking, 2) alternately walking and jogging, 3) jogging (light running), and 4) running. Vigorous activity was defined as levels 2, 3, or 4 (all more intensive than normal walking), performed at least 3–5 times/month in 1975 and 1981, or at least for 30 min each week in 1990.

(so - not useful)

However, I found another one[3], which has this to say:

Several of us have recently analyzed 55,000 individuals (13,000 runners) from the ACLS database during nearly 15-year follow-up to assess the impact of running on CVD and allcause mortality.11 Compared with nonrunners, runners had a reduction in all-cause and CVD mortality of 30% and 45%, respectively, with an average increase in survival of 3.0 and 4.1 years for all-cause and CVD-related survival, respectively, after adjusting for lifestyle factors (eg, smoking and obesity) and medical conditions (eg, HTN and T2DM). Persistent runners appeared to receive the full benefit from mortality reduction, whereas those who started running but stopped or those who were not running at baseline but subsequently started running appeared to receive nearly half of the benefit received from CVD and all-cause mortality reduction. These results are impressive, though perhaps not surprising when considered in the context of the data outlined in previous sections, showing myriad health benefits of running.

However, when assessing doses of running, somewhat surprising results were found. Runners generally had considerably higher levels of CRF than did nonrunners, and moreover, CRF levels in runners progressively increased with increasing doses of running (Figure 2).11 Most evidence indicates better survival with estimated MET levels greater than 10,23-25 although some evidence indicates progressively better survival with even higher CRF levels.45 When 13,000 runners were divided into quintiles of running doses (miles per week, times per week, minutes per week, and speed), no significant differences in the benefits were noted for any of the running groups.Infact,runnersinquintile1(eg,<6 miles/wk, 1-2 times/wk, <51 min/wk, <6 mph) received the full benefits from running with regard to reduction in CVD and all-cause mortality (Figure 3).11 These results suggest that maximal benefits of running occur at quite modest jogging doses and that runners in quintile 1 have almost similar benefits of running compared with those in quintile 2 to quintile 4 and have a slight, nonstatistically significant trend toward greater benefitcomparedwith those in quintile 5. However, in contrast to the results of the Copenhagen City Heart Study,14 our results, from a larger sample with much better statistical power, indicated that runners with high doses of running in quintile 5 still had significantly better CVD and all-cause survival compared with nonrunners.11 However, these higher doses of running were not necessary to achieve maximal reduction in CVD and allcause mortality.11-14

1 - http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/clc.4960130809/pd...

2 - http://www.nature.com/articles/srep18259

3 - http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0025619615...