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by nikdaheratik 3432 days ago
Except that it isn't a law. It's an executive order. The President isn't a dictator and doesn't get to rule any department by decree. If the secretary feels that the order is illegal, they can refuse to follow it, and get forced to resign, but then the President would still need to find someone else to follow the order.
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walljm 3431 days ago
The executive order was backed by the law though. The President does have the powers he exercised, at least, near as I can tell from the US Code cited in the order. I don't necessarily like the order, or how it was carried out, but I'm not sure her actions were justified on the grounds she cited.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/27/execu... and https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/chapter-12/subchap...

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mikeash 3431 days ago
Aren't many of the objections to the order based on constitutional concerns like depriving people of due process? That would override anything in the US Code.
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belovedeagle 3431 days ago
Get real. The objections to the order are based exclusively on whether there's an (R) or a (D) next to the President's name. Nothing more. Incredible to see how many people suddenly "care" about the Constitution after 8 years of Obama wiping his feet on it.
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nikdaheratik 3431 days ago
Maybe because George W. Bush didn't pull anything like this and he was President during 9/11? You can't claim that the "D" is just as bad as "R" and then forget about every other President from both parties who didn't go about indiscriminately banning people with Permanent Resident status from entering the country.

And I'll take a Law Professor over a reality TV star when it comes to protecting the Constitution and running the government while obeying the law.

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mikeash 3431 days ago
Just to clarify, are you an (R) who is OK with this stuff? Or are you just more upset about consistency than rights abuses?
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belovedeagle 3431 days ago
Why, are you confused about whether to downvote me? I don't see (a) why it should matter or (b) that it's any of your business... The fact that you need to know the letter next to my name to evaluate my statement is exactly what is wrong with America.
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mikeash 3431 days ago
Because if you imagine yourself to be above the fray and are merely attacking me based on consistency, then my reply would involve asking you what you want (given that we can't go back in time and start fighting Obama harder) and why you're more concerned about consistency than abuses. If you're a Trump supporter, then I'd just go straight to pointing out how much worse Trump's actions are in this department.
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