[eli_gottlieb]

>You have people working full-time who cannot afford the living. You have one of the most expensive and unreachable for many healthcare systems. You do have degressive taxing systems. You have much smaller middle class that you are used too.

These are all very, very real problems. The problem is, they're not solved by voting Republican, but a lot of people simply think of themselves as Republicans. So there are a lot of people who voted to wreck everything rather than to fix their own problems.

[d3ckard]

There is a fallacy there - you believe, that if voting Republican does not improve situation, but can likely be detrimental, its better to stick with alternative. The caveat is that this is the reasoning of people functioning reasonably well in current society. If you put yourself in shoes of those who are definitely not happy now, for them the choice is quite different - status quo, which is unacceptable, or change, which may be good or bad. They will choose change most of the time, because they don't perceive how it can come out worse for them. Or, at the very least, change will make those higher in the ladder in trouble too, which can be actually attractive as "bringing justice", even if it does not improve situation for anybody.

People tend to prefer being miserable with everybody else than on their own.

[eli_gottlieb]

>There is a fallacy there - you believe, that if voting Republican does not improve situation, but can likely be detrimental, its better to stick with alternative.

No, I don't believe in the two-party system. If someone voted Green, Libertarian, or otherwise because they believed a third-party vote (especially down-ballot) would actually help address their problems, more power to them.

[dustinmr]

Here's the thing, they're not solved by voting Democrat either.

[eli_gottlieb]

Quite right. I much prefer when people vote third-party on principle.