[new299]

> I genuinely believe that home schooling shouldn't be allowed, except for kids with disabilities which stop them from leaving home.

That doesn't really seem like a well reasoned argument. Can you provide any data to backup that statement?

Let's try some quick googling. This article looks pretty good:

http://www.educationandbehavior.com/what-does-research-say-a...

Two interesting quotes from a paper they cite:

"For instance, one nationwide study analyzed data from 1,952 homeschooled students across the country and found that the students, on average, scored at the eightieth percentile or higher in every test category"

"Several studies found no significant difference in the social skills of homeschooled and non-homeschooled students. Other studies found that homeschooled children score significantly higher on social development rating scales/questionnaires."

[vacri]

So I went hunting from that link, since scoring so highly simply doesn't pass the sniff test. The reference is an academic paper full of weasel words ('many studies show' type stuff), and that particular commentary (1,952 students bit) came from a book by Brian D. Ray, a not exactly neutral proponent given he is the president of the National Home Education Research Institute. I didn't find a relevant excerpt from the book, but I have found an infographic[1] based on it and other articles.

Turns out that it doesn't matter how poor or uneducated the parents, the students still perform in the top 20%, including maths and science (the latter being particularly suspect given the strong showing of fundamentalist religion in the homeschooling world).

Going back to the reference paper and pulling another reference[2], it clearly states in the abstract that while they found significantly higher rates of performance in the home-schooled kids, they also had a significantly more educated parents and significantly higher family income... and also clearly state that since their experiment wasn't controlled, you shouldn't read too much into it.

These numbers in that link are cooked. They're nonsense. That link is using weasel words, apples-to-oranges comparisons, and pulling info from non-neutral parties. Is home schooling better or worse? Well, it depends; it is better for some, and there are certainly some myths. But that link is cooked.

[1]https://www.nheri.org/HERR.pdf

[2]http://epaa.asu.edu/ojs/article/view/543

[new299]

Thanks, looking over the references myself I'd tend to agree. The Widener Law Review paper itself looks pretty biased.

I'd like to find a more recent, less biased review if anyone knows of one.

[gambiting]

The statement literally said "I believe that [...]".

How can I provide data to back up that statement?

I never reasoned that home schooling doesn't provide results, or that home schooled students do worse. I'm sure that with dedicated enough parents, it will provide results, and the students will do better or at least just as well!

I still think that it shouldn't be allowed. I'm not sure how I can provide sources on that.

[Inconel]

I'm not nearly knowledgable enough about this subject to have a well informed opinion and my only exposure to homeschooled kids have turned out to be very well adjusted adults. Despite my own anecdotal experience, I'm certainly open to any data showing the overall negative effects that homeschooling may have on the societal level, but if you strongly believe it shouldn't be allowed, and yet this belief isn't based on any solid reasoning or evidence, isn't that somewhat similar to the kind of unfounded beliefs on display in the article?

[new299]

Sorry, I should have said "could you provide data which shows your believe is valid/would make the world better?"

Stating "I believe X" without any basis in reality doesn't seem like a useful contribution to any discussion really...