[guitarbill]

It's a silly argument anyway, as in the famous xkcd comic, technology probably isn't the weakest link. And if a state really wants to snoop on you in particular, they will.

Meanwhile, as mentioned elsewhere, Android is vulnerable to several key-extraction techniques and the speed of security updates depends on which model you have.

[astrodust]

Literally every other phone on the planet is vulnerable. Even some garbage flip-phone you got at Wal-Mart thinking it's not smart and therefore secure is likely a joke for anyone to crack into. That software hasn't changed in years. It's full of unpatched holes.

This is why Snowden wanted people to put their phones in the freezer to avoid eavesdropping: https://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/25/why-snowdens-vi...