[jpark]

and what has Steve Jobs literally made himself as opposed to telling others what to make? Jobs has made less than probably most people on HN. Let's hear it for the countless thousands of engineers and designers who break their backs for Steve so he can be literally lord it over those who obviously aren't the great "maker" that he is.

[patgarner]

For one, Apple Computers.

[jpark]

sorry, most of that early work was done by Woz. please demonstrate any significant code written or schematics created by Jobs.

[patgarner]

My apologies, I wasn't clear. I was speaking specifically about the company itself.