[dllthomas]

> Why would you even ask that?

You said,

> Clearly whatever is being done is insufficient and that's why there are attacks by Islamists.

If, as the parent is hinting, there have been few-to-no attacks by immigrant Islamists (and few attacks by Islamists of any stripe) in the US, I don't see how it's remotely clear that "whatever is being done is insufficient". What the hell does "sufficient" look like?

> Do you want America to be like France where because of insufficient immigration controls they get an attack every so often from these Islamic immigrants?

Personally? Maybe. If the cost of getting rid of it was zero, then no, of course not. But I choose to bear much higher risks because I don't like the trade-offs necessary to eliminate them. There is no reason this should be different.

[_andromeda_]

>What the hell does "sufficient" look like?

Exactly what President Trump has done. Impose a ban until it can be figured out, what the hell is going on.

[JoeAltmaier]

But its been established, nothing is going on. Except for fear-mongering at the highest levels. Its a circus, designed to distract from the real crimes, which are stealing the entire US economy out from under us.

[grzm]

Its a circus, designed to distract

Okay, I'm with you. A lot of Trump's behavior during the campaign and leading up to the inauguration can be interpreted in this way as well.

from the real crimes,

It's been (just over) a week since the inauguration. I'm sure I could have missed something. The only thing I can think of right now is the emoluments-related matters, and other conflicts of interest. The Executive Order stuff is pretty nasty as well, and looks to be the beginning of a judicial (and perhaps congressional) fight, arguably a crime, but that remains to be seen.

which are stealing the entire US economy out from under us.

Okay, now I'm not following at all. What am I missing? I plead naiveté and ignorance and throw myself at the mercy of the court.

[JoeAltmaier]

After soaking up 99% of American wealth in the last 20 years, the new cabinet consisting of Wall Street executives (among the friends and family) is designed to scrape up any morsels left to the rest of us.

[grzm]

Oh. Let's not with the general ideological comments, then. They don't foster substantive discussion.

[_andromeda_]

>which are stealing the entire US economy out from under us.

How so?

The only stealing going on is that targeted at the wealthy. High taxes and innumerable regulations are an atrocity. Inflation is even more atrocious.

However, here's what Keynesian economics proponents never get; even though you try to rob the rich by currency devaluation, you end up doing quite the opposite and that is actually hurt the poor who are the worst affected by inflation all while saying that in the end, we're all dead anyway.

[grzm]

Let's not continue on with general ideological comments unless you have something new or interesting to add.

[dllthomas]

Again, with the level of scrutiny we had before we haven't had a problem. Why is "what the hell is going on" suddenly unknown?