[myrandomcomment]

Trump is an asshole however he is our legitimate president no mater how much some of us do not like it. He won the election as the rules require. Period. Let's not forget that. The office should be respected no matter what asswipe he is in it. If you disagree with his policies then call your congressman, et. al. Protest by all means. That is your right as an American. He was elected because a large majority of people in individual states did not follow thought with their duty to vote pure and simple. Let's make sure that those voices are heard and we do not make this same mistake in 4 years. The man scares the hell out of me but I am not going to say he is not the ligitimate president because he won and I do not like him. It is our duty to protest and make our voice heard if we disagree. It would have been great if we did the before the election but your fellow Americans did not and we have to live with that. Please do not give me any bulsshit about the popular vote because that is not they way the rules work. If you do not like that then do something about it. He, president trump is the president no matter how much it sucks.

[corndoge]

100% agreed. Trump was elected fair and square, citizens still have recourse through official channels, and the American experiment will continue. I don't agree with most of his policies but these are facts.

To some extent it appears that the American public enjoys working itself into a hysteric frenzy. One might almost view it as political virtue signalling on a national scale.

[frisco]

The parent is not saying Trump is not the legitimate president. He's saying that the US government has three branches (congress, executive, judiciary) which provide checks and balances and Trump is ordering an executive agency to ignore that, and the agency is following this order. Characterizing this as a coup is not totally inaccurate.

[corndoge]

"...in which our illegitimate "President" is overriding the authority of the judicial branch..."

The subject is 'President' and the adjective is 'illegitimate'. If the parent meant that Trump's actions are not legally sound, then they would have written:

"...in which our "President" is illegitimately overriding the authority of the judicial branch..."

[grzm]

The parent is not saying Trump is not the legitimate president

Actually, the parent does explicitly say this:

our illegitimate "President"

[icelancer]

>Trump is ordering an executive agency to ignore that

>"The Department of Homeland Security will comply with judicial orders..."

Yeah, not seeing it. The stay is temporary, not permanent. He is allowed to continue enforcing his EO.

[notacoward]

Trump can only be a legitimate president under our constitution. If he fails to respect the limits on presidential power laid out by that constitution, including the right and responsibility of the judicial branch to block an order deemed unconstitutional, then he disavows the very document on which his legitimacy is predicated. To say that he's legitimate under those conditions is not even wrong. It's gibberish.

[pduszak]

And his point is that the president doesn't have the right to override judicial ruling? He's a president, not an emperor.

[icelancer]

His point is incorrect. DHS in the linked statement in this very post says they will comply with judicial rulings.

[sdenton4]

Disregarding the system of checks and balances means he's not acting within the system of government. This is a constitutional crisis.

[grzm]

As I understand it, your parent is (if verbosely) pointing out the use of the phrase our illegitimate "President", and points out that we can and should be protesting. These points aren't in contradiction of yours. Indeed, depending on the outcome of everything surrounding this Executive Order, your point as well as those of your parent may all well be true.