[yongjik]

> ... people on the right who are for less government and rule, but respect the rule of law ...

The right has just elected this guy into WH:

> "Hillary wants to abolish -- essentially abolish the Second Amendment. By the way, if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks. Although the Second Amendment people, maybe there is, I don't know," Trump said.

"Respect the rule of law," my ass.

[grzm]

No matter how wrong you think others may be, please strive to be even more civil during contentious discussions.

[davesque]

I think what he said was entirely appropriate. You don't have to look very hard to find pretty convincing evidence that Republicans are not the law and order party that they claim to be. Gerrymandering, obstructionism, racist and anarchist dog whistling. There's so much there it's hard to know where to start.

[grzm]

You've written a much more substantive and civil comment than did 'yongjik while raising the same issue. My point was not that the sentiment was unjustified, but that the manner in which it was expressed was uncivil. Especially with politics, we need to strive to be even more civil rather than less so.

[ajmurmann]

And thinks it's OK to molest women...

[grzm]

Please stop bringing up every last thing you can think of, no matter how wrong you think others may be. These discussions are difficult enough as it is without throwing all variety of incendiary materials on the fire. It's not constructive and actively makes things worse.

[ajmurmann]

That is a good point. Thank you for pointing that out! It's way too easy to lose perspective and often control these dayes. I have to get better at what I actually set out to do and ignore politics and news for the next years and just donate s bunch to ACLU. That's really all one can do. I don't think there is anything one could say that would make this situation better either way.

[grzm]

I don't think there is anything one could say that would make this situation better either way.

Well, I'd like to think our little exchange made things a little better. I know it helped reinforce for me that people can step back and reflect, which it's easy to lose sight of. And figuring out ways to do so is increasingly important.