[rmason]

Once they can traverse Chicago or Detroit in the winter safely then they can try Grand Rapids or Buffalo.

For the record in East Lansing we get a lot more snow than Detroit but we're pikers compared to say Holland or Grand Haven.

[bbarn]

I drove in Grand Rapids and Chicago today. I'd take bad weather in GR than here at home any time. More snow more often doesn't mean more difficult to drive, more population and smaller streets here make it way riskier. Ice and sliding are easy problems to account for in code, bad manners are not.