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by throwawayish 3427 days ago
Remind me, who exactly voted the narcissistic nationalist into the executive office controlling the worlds largest surveillance and secret service/police apparatus?

Small Government is a nice, and good, idea, but history shows us that neither surveillance apparatus (pl.) nor secret police (pl.) relinquish power, ever, within existing in the same continuum of legitimation (ie. state). There has been no previous instance where either were reduced; they only grow until chopped off entirely.

It's an infestation of the state. There is only one - proven - cure. (And I think it's naïve to assume that those who built and grow these structures are not aware of this)
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becarefulyo 3427 days ago
Not me.

You're right though, the biggest problem is all the people cheering this on. I read "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" and this seems to be escalating even faster.

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gotchange 3427 days ago
> Small Government is a nice, and good, idea, but history shows us that neither surveillance apparatus (pl.) nor secret police (pl.) relinquish power, ever, within existing in the same continuum of legitimation (ie. state). There has been no previous instance where either were reduced; they only grow until chopped off entirely.

Is there a book or article that I can read about this point?

I'd really appreciate it if you could show me a few examples.

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throwawayish 3427 days ago
I think the most prominent examples would be: Nazis (obviously), Stasi / DDR / GDR, Chile (Pinochet) and the dictatorship in Argentina; but in the last century there were many more examples, be it in South America, Africa or eastern Europe.

Wikipedia has a list of historical secret police: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_historical_secret_poli...

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Current examples that are still alive and well could be the various GCC states, but especially Saudi Arabia there; the UK and the US to some degree each (both are obviously full-blown surveillance states at the very least; and it can be reasonably argued that (divisions of) the FBI and some other agencies qualify as a secret police) in the western hemisphere; Russia.

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