[shard972]

It's just supply and demand isn't it? If you have a larger supply of workers due to laws around immigration being laxed, does it not stand to reason that the increased competition would lead to lower wages?

Especially when an economy is not at full employment, like the the US.

[denzil_correa]

There are two important points in the comment above : (1) Immigration is "uncontrolled" in the U.S. and (2) Wages are artificially suppressed.

I'd like to see a source on both of those parts. Each and every word chosen in the comment above is critical to the claim being made (artificial and uncontrolled; in particular).

[shard972]

> (1) Immigration is "uncontrolled" in the U.S.

If you are taking uncontrolled in it's most literal definition then you won't find a source, otherwise all you need to do is look at situation in the US with sanctuary cities. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanctuary_city

As an Australian, I find the whole concept a bit baffling. That a city just decides "If you make it to this city, we will protect you from immigration laws". I don't see how you could describe an immigration system as "under control" if all the rules can be thrown out the window if you get to a "safe zone".

I know this shooting has been referenced alot in the US and i think it's a good example of this, how can immigration be considered under control when a man can be deported 5 times and still get back in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Kathryn_Steinle

> (2) Wages are artificially suppressed.

Well again, like all things in politics definitions are not always a constant. Artificial in this case could describe a host of valid definitions from Any government action on a free economy to overly burdensome regulations and mandates that force a market obviously in one direction. I'm sure some people would argue that taxation itself is wage suppression.

So for this case, I would say when you take the fact the US's labor particpation rate still hasn't recovered to pre-GFC levels http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements/2016/jun/13/da..., the laxing of immigration laws combined with stagnating wages http://www.epi.org/publication/charting-wage-stagnation/.

I think you can definitely make an argument that wages have been suppressed by these policies.

[denzil_correa]

(1) A "sanctuary city" does not prove that immigration to the U.S. is uncontrolled. At best, it shows that illegal immigrants are protected.

(2) I'm not looking for political definitions. I'm looking for facts via research and data which show that wages are "artificially" suppressed due to uncontrolled immigration.

So far, I've only seen are plausible theories and hypothesis. Now, I'm waiting for actual data and research to back it up via a credible independent process.