[leereeves]

Can we put aside the partisan attacks and have a rational discussion here on Hacker News?

In that spirit, I think you're wrong about inherited wealth, gold, and women who "let you do it" being unavailable to black Americans.

A small number of people of both races have access to these things.

[sg47]

I don't understand how that was a partisan attack. Are you saying he didn't grab women's genitals?

[leereeves]

Apparently we can't put that topic aside to discuss campaign stress making candidates sick.

I called it a partisan attack because, prompted by the mere mention of Trump's name, that comment pulled the conversation so far off topic for no reason other than to attack Trump.

[yarou]

I agree that people, regardless of race, can end up ranking pretty high on the ladder of Western society.

However, it's pretty disingenuous to suggest that everyone starts out in the same position on that ladder.

[leereeves]

When did I suggest that?

[yarou]

It's sort of implied in your comment that black Americans have the same access to the superficial perks the person you were responding to suggested.

Here's a simple thought experiment for you. If you took the starting rating, x, for a set of Americans, I think you'd find that whites have a higher initial starting rank than someone who's black or Hispanic. It's harder to climb the ladder when you start out on a lower position.

[leereeves]

I think that thought experiment starts from a flawed premise. There's no starting rank for a set of Americans - different people have different starting ranks.

Obama's daughters start out well ahead of a homeless white boy, for example, and any bias that would lead to aiding Obama's daughters instead of the homeless white boy is unjust.