[helpfulanon]

You make a noble point, but it will not change anything at this stage. I am human. As are all of us. My well of empathy for Trump's people has gone completely bone dry. I am past the tipping point.

They elected an egotistical reality TV star, backed by a hostile foreign government, to the White House and he's taking a wrecking ball to every institution of federal government exactly as one would have expected him to. Any assertion that tears should be shed or some level of respect should be offered to Trump's people or duped Republicans, is absurd nonsense. The only feeling I have left for these people is rage and it grows with every passing day.

Things are going to get very very ugly soon

[rpiguy]

No Republican was duped. He's doing exactly what he said he was going to do. Temporary ban on immigration, build a wall, take an axe to the bloated federal government, can the TPP, next week we should get our first conservative supreme court nominee. Even better it is driving leftists into a rage, showing everyone where the real bullying and violence comes from - the Left! I have never been more hopeful about the future!

[cplanas]

> Temporary ban on immigration [...] I have never been more hopeful about the future!

I was curious about you -there are not many that support your positions in HN- and I checked your past comments. You seem to be an immigrant too, as you define yourself as a "Valley startup expat". If that's the case, how can you support a ban on immigration -even if it's temporary- being an immigrant yourself? Don't get offended, I'm genuinely curious.

[rpiguy]

I am not offended, no worries. A temporary ban on immigration for the purpose of security is a reasonable proposition to me. Every country has the right to secure itself and define who can and can't enter the country. It is fundamental to the concept of being a nation. India, China, Japan, Korea, even Mexico all have very restrictive immigration policies and I have yet to see anyone work themselves into a rage over it on Hackernews. India even started building a wall between itself and Bangladesh (I have no idea if they completed it honestly, but again I don't remember an outcry at the time).

Historically the US has gone through times of very low immigration and also times of very high immigration. It will swing back in twenty or thirty years.

Specifically in reference to this article, there are very few PhD seats for advanced physics in the US and the universities are so prestigious if someone is denied a visa from a temporarily banned country, another person of equal brilliance from another country will take that seat.

[helpfulanon]

The pendulum swings both ways, and right now it is swinging faster and harder than ever before in this country. When it swings back, in a tsunami of the unrelenting rage and profound hatred for the other side, there will be blood. That is the future.

[rpiguy]

Possibly. Remember it is the right wingers with all the guns :-)

[helpfulanon]

You can troll your way into a civil war, but you can't troll your way out of it.

[rpiguy]

I think the person saying there will be blood is the troll and the aggressor. I was just pointing out who has the guns and the police.